• Re: RealVNC server on RasPi with Raspian/Debian Bookworm - current situ

    From Robert Riches@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 11 22:57:03 2026
    Subject: Re: RealVNC server on RasPi with Raspian/Debian Bookworm - current situation

    On 2026-10-11, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    On 11/10/2026 21:29, Knute Johnson wrote:
    If you want to run RealVNC server on your Pi and access it from the
    internet you need to set your Pi to use X11 not Wayland.  Do that in
    raspi-config.  You can get a free account from RealVNC for up to 3
    servers for personal use.  It works great.  I have 3 Pis running RealVNC
    server and accessing them from the internet.  You can even get an
    Android RealVNC viewer, it works great too.
    Ah, I didn't know it was possible to change from Wayland to X11. I'll investigate.

    Does changing from Wayland to X11 "break" anything that I might want to
    run on the Pi? Did older versions of Raspian (the versions avilable when
    the Pi 3 was sold) use X11?

    I think I've got a spare RealVNC account, in addition to the two that I
    use for accessing my desktop and laptop Windows PCs. It's a shame that
    they reduced the "Lite" limit from five to three...

    Annoyingly, three of the applications (*) that I use on the Pi on the PC only have HTTP interfaces (on different ports) so I either have to use port-forwarding to access from the internet or else RealVNC to the Pi
    (on X11!) and then start a browser on there to access the apps from the LAN.

    (*) TVHeadend video recorder; Cumulus weather station software; an app
    for monitoring electricity usage over time on Kasa smart-plugs, to check that our deep freezers are working OK (look for any anomalous usage...)

    Is there any possibility that a VPN might help to work around the
    difficulty in doing port forwarding?

    --
    Robert Riches
    spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
    (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From NY@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 11 22:20:01 2026
    Subject: Re: RealVNC server on RasPi with Raspian/Debian Bookworm - current situation

    On 11/10/2026 21:29, Knute Johnson wrote:
    If you want to run RealVNC server on your Pi and access it from the
    internet you need to set your Pi to use X11 not Wayland.  Do that in raspi-config.  You can get a free account from RealVNC for up to 3
    servers for personal use.  It works great.  I have 3 Pis running RealVNC server and accessing them from the internet.  You can even get an
    Android RealVNC viewer, it works great too.
    Ah, I didn't know it was possible to change from Wayland to X11. I'll investigate.

    Does changing from Wayland to X11 "break" anything that I might want to
    run on the Pi? Did older versions of Raspian (the versions avilable when
    the Pi 3 was sold) use X11?

    I think I've got a spare RealVNC account, in addition to the two that I
    use for accessing my desktop and laptop Windows PCs. It's a shame that
    they reduced the "Lite" limit from five to three...

    Annoyingly, three of the applications (*) that I use on the Pi on the PC
    only have HTTP interfaces (on different ports) so I either have to use port-forwarding to access from the internet or else RealVNC to the Pi
    (on X11!) and then start a browser on there to access the apps from the LAN.

    (*) TVHeadend video recorder; Cumulus weather station software; an app
    for monitoring electricity usage over time on Kasa smart-plugs, to check
    that our deep freezers are working OK (look for any anomalous usage...)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Knute Johnson@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 12 11:00:01 2026
    Subject: Re: RealVNC server on RasPi with Raspian/Debian Bookworm - current situation

    On 10/11/26 14:21, NY wrote:
    I know that at one time newer versions of Raspian (eg Bookworm) wouldn't
    run RealNVC server because of a problem with Wayland.

    Has that situation been resolved yet? Is there a version of RealVNC
    server that will work with Debian Bookworm to allow cloud-based
    connections from outside my LAN?

    I've got RealVNC client (eg on Windows or Android) to connect to my Pi
    by Direct connection, but that doesn't help with accessing from the WAN
    (eg if my phone or laptop is connected to a different internet
    connection when I'm away from home).

    The workaround is to use Port Forwarding on my router, to forward <WAN-IP>:<port> to <Pi-LAN-IP>:5900 so an external connection looks like
    an internal LAN connection.

    However I've got a new internet connection and the company (by default)
    uses CGNAT which means that port-forwarding doesn't work.

    I may be able to get a static IP address from my internet company which presumably means there is no CGNAT (or at least, no double-NAT) so I can access ports on the WAN address from the outside world and use port- forwarding to pass on traffic to the Pi on the LAN.

    But if that is not possible, I'll need a RealVNC solution that uses a cloud-based connection (as for RealVNC server on Windows) - hence my
    initial question.

    If you want to run RealVNC server on your Pi and access it from the
    internet you need to set your Pi to use X11 not Wayland. Do that in raspi-config. You can get a free account from RealVNC for up to 3
    servers for personal use. It works great. I have 3 Pis running RealVNC server and accessing them from the internet. You can even get an
    Android RealVNC viewer, it works great too.

    Or look at the RaspberryPi scheme that I don't know anything about.

    --

    Knute Johnson

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  • From Chris Townley@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 11 21:41:26 2026
    Subject: Re: RealVNC server on RasPi with Raspian/Debian Bookworm - current situation

    On 11/10/2026 21:29, Knute Johnson wrote:
    On 10/11/26 14:21, NY wrote:

    snip >
    Or look at the RaspberryPi scheme that I don't know anything about.

    Raspberry Pi connect

    --
    Chris

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